srikondoji
07-08 11:24 AM
Well said.
Such intricate details won't come out in interviews or even personally talking to them. Only lawyers can do it as part of a fight with lawsuits.
1)Why they have to make everybody current?
2)Why they were working weekends (actually heard that govt employees working during weekends is illegal) to clear 60,000 visa numbers?
3) Why did they pick july 2nd to revise the bulletin and did not pre-warn potential applicants?
4)Why no one from DOS or USCIS is talking about exceptions and or remedies for those july applicants who wasted thousands in 2 weeks?
5) What was that urge, which compelled DOS to make everybody current?
6) What will happen to those applicantions reached early morning on july 2nd before revised bulletin became public or those who mailed on june 29/30 for July 2nd delivery?
7) Why did USCIS clear so many applicants by-passing security checks and clearances?
8) Why was there a mad rush in the last 2 weeks of june when in reality visa numbers would go waste on sept end?
9) Why USCIS always talks about under staffed when they are in a possition to clear 60,000 applicantions in a matter of days?
Any more?
--sri
H1bmajdoor -- the blunder I am talking about here is making the dates all current (the original July bulletin) -- who the hell asked them to do that?? Why not move them another year forward? Had they done that I doubt USCIS would have panicked and gone crazy approving people without security checks, approving people whose dates were not current in June or even on July 2.
That had nothing to do with the law, or the ceiling set by law -- it was an arbitrary roll of the dice by DOS, a decision made WITHOUT consulting USCIS.
Such intricate details won't come out in interviews or even personally talking to them. Only lawyers can do it as part of a fight with lawsuits.
1)Why they have to make everybody current?
2)Why they were working weekends (actually heard that govt employees working during weekends is illegal) to clear 60,000 visa numbers?
3) Why did they pick july 2nd to revise the bulletin and did not pre-warn potential applicants?
4)Why no one from DOS or USCIS is talking about exceptions and or remedies for those july applicants who wasted thousands in 2 weeks?
5) What was that urge, which compelled DOS to make everybody current?
6) What will happen to those applicantions reached early morning on july 2nd before revised bulletin became public or those who mailed on june 29/30 for July 2nd delivery?
7) Why did USCIS clear so many applicants by-passing security checks and clearances?
8) Why was there a mad rush in the last 2 weeks of june when in reality visa numbers would go waste on sept end?
9) Why USCIS always talks about under staffed when they are in a possition to clear 60,000 applicantions in a matter of days?
Any more?
--sri
H1bmajdoor -- the blunder I am talking about here is making the dates all current (the original July bulletin) -- who the hell asked them to do that?? Why not move them another year forward? Had they done that I doubt USCIS would have panicked and gone crazy approving people without security checks, approving people whose dates were not current in June or even on July 2.
That had nothing to do with the law, or the ceiling set by law -- it was an arbitrary roll of the dice by DOS, a decision made WITHOUT consulting USCIS.
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03-02 03:48 PM
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psk79
08-29 09:47 AM
Did your checks cashed before you got the receipts? or receipts much faster?? Congrats!
Sorry! I just saw your other thread about the check mishap..Good luck!
Sorry! I just saw your other thread about the check mishap..Good luck!
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dvb123
05-01 01:00 PM
Dependends will come under
FAMILY-SPONSORED PREFERENCES
Second: Spouses and Children, and Unmarried Sons and Daughters of Permanent
Residents: 114,200, plus the number (if any) by which the worldwide family preference level exceeds 226,000, and any unused first preference numbers:
The priority date will be same as the primary because the law states that primary and dependents have the same priority date. FB 2 is almost same priority dated as EB 1,2 and 3 preferences.
Primary -> Gets visa number from EB 1,2 or 3
Dependents -> Gets visa number from FB2
Wife and children need not wait because FB2 is not that retrogressed.
FAMILY-SPONSORED PREFERENCES
Second: Spouses and Children, and Unmarried Sons and Daughters of Permanent
Residents: 114,200, plus the number (if any) by which the worldwide family preference level exceeds 226,000, and any unused first preference numbers:
The priority date will be same as the primary because the law states that primary and dependents have the same priority date. FB 2 is almost same priority dated as EB 1,2 and 3 preferences.
Primary -> Gets visa number from EB 1,2 or 3
Dependents -> Gets visa number from FB2
Wife and children need not wait because FB2 is not that retrogressed.
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gkattalu
08-20 12:53 PM
Buddyinsd,
Please hang in there. I am sure you will get yours card soon...
For various reasons, I got my greencard 14 years after entering this country and 14years after getting my Ph.D. Life throws up challenges and we have to face them with courage.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
Please hang in there. I am sure you will get yours card soon...
For various reasons, I got my greencard 14 years after entering this country and 14years after getting my Ph.D. Life throws up challenges and we have to face them with courage.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
nehas
01-29 05:03 PM
Hi
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
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go_getter007
12-17 12:33 PM
You may want to focus on (and be thankful for) what you have out of the following:
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
This obviously is not a all-inclusive list. You may have your own things to add here. To me, having all these priceless gifts on the one hand and not having a GC on the other is clearly lopsided for you to be happy!
And after all, we are not "permanent" residents of anywhere, right? :) So, why attach more than necessary importance to a piece of paper during our prime time?
Cheers,
GG_007
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
This obviously is not a all-inclusive list. You may have your own things to add here. To me, having all these priceless gifts on the one hand and not having a GC on the other is clearly lopsided for you to be happy!
And after all, we are not "permanent" residents of anywhere, right? :) So, why attach more than necessary importance to a piece of paper during our prime time?
Cheers,
GG_007
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
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amsgc
03-09 11:53 PM
Sayantan,
It ironic that you, of all people who got a GC through EB1, are questioning the importance of intellect over physical labor. It is no secret that human civilization has progressed and prospered only because some people have thought hard and attempted to invent new things. And the current EB preference system clearly reflects that importance of intellectual advancement to any society.
The cabbie or the waiter, with due respect their profession, is a mere cog in the wheel; a facilitator. But you my friend, the high skilled immigrant, have the ability to innovate and help your society progress. You have the education and understanding that can be passed on to future generations.
It is not to say that the waiter cannot invent, but the fact of the matter is five years on and he is still waiting tables.
I wonder if you were waiting in limbo for five-six-seven years, would you have still made this callous remark?
what makes you think you are more important to american society than the waiter or the cabbies? we all come to US under full disclosure but a hope that by the time our turn at GC (and Citizenship for those who care) comes - the queues would have shortened or the rules would have changed in our favor and we wont have to wait for so long......
It ironic that you, of all people who got a GC through EB1, are questioning the importance of intellect over physical labor. It is no secret that human civilization has progressed and prospered only because some people have thought hard and attempted to invent new things. And the current EB preference system clearly reflects that importance of intellectual advancement to any society.
The cabbie or the waiter, with due respect their profession, is a mere cog in the wheel; a facilitator. But you my friend, the high skilled immigrant, have the ability to innovate and help your society progress. You have the education and understanding that can be passed on to future generations.
It is not to say that the waiter cannot invent, but the fact of the matter is five years on and he is still waiting tables.
I wonder if you were waiting in limbo for five-six-seven years, would you have still made this callous remark?
what makes you think you are more important to american society than the waiter or the cabbies? we all come to US under full disclosure but a hope that by the time our turn at GC (and Citizenship for those who care) comes - the queues would have shortened or the rules would have changed in our favor and we wont have to wait for so long......
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Macaca
12-10 11:54 AM
Hey proud emerican
Last week someone with last name Powell (looked very proud to me) from state deptt was on situation room with Wolf Blitzer. Her office was in charge of increasing the enrollment of internartional students in your contry. She had reduced the time for processing F1 visa to a week. She even went to middle east. Get her deptt closed proudly. This will improve your educational system also.
If you can not stop her, ask her to tell all students that F1 will not be converted to H1B or H1B will not be converted to green card.
This will stop the problem at the root and you can enjoy your wealth proudly.
Why don't posters on this forum move back to their home country and concentrate on making their home country great instead of slamming into someone else's country and just living off the wealth others have created?
The bottom line is that a SKIL act is not needed. Hundreds of thousands of American programmers have lost their job to the third world, both in outsourcing and insourcing of third world programmers who work for cheaper wages. There is absolutely no need for more foreigners here and no need for more green cards. Temporary workers are just that - temporary. If you are on a temporary visa, work your time, make some money for your family and head home when your time is up. Don't cry that we don't provide enough green cards when you knew what kind of visa you were on.
Last week someone with last name Powell (looked very proud to me) from state deptt was on situation room with Wolf Blitzer. Her office was in charge of increasing the enrollment of internartional students in your contry. She had reduced the time for processing F1 visa to a week. She even went to middle east. Get her deptt closed proudly. This will improve your educational system also.
If you can not stop her, ask her to tell all students that F1 will not be converted to H1B or H1B will not be converted to green card.
This will stop the problem at the root and you can enjoy your wealth proudly.
Why don't posters on this forum move back to their home country and concentrate on making their home country great instead of slamming into someone else's country and just living off the wealth others have created?
The bottom line is that a SKIL act is not needed. Hundreds of thousands of American programmers have lost their job to the third world, both in outsourcing and insourcing of third world programmers who work for cheaper wages. There is absolutely no need for more foreigners here and no need for more green cards. Temporary workers are just that - temporary. If you are on a temporary visa, work your time, make some money for your family and head home when your time is up. Don't cry that we don't provide enough green cards when you knew what kind of visa you were on.
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delhiguy
07-07 08:33 AM
There is no wrong doing by DOS by changing the VB, but the timing is wrong. They should have changed it as soon as they released it or else atleast by 25th or 26th to prevent some damage.
Totally agree.. Can you tell which law has been broken by them.
They didnt break a single law.
USCIS broke a law last month by not accepting the EB3 Other workers, even when the bulletin said that the numbers were avaible.
But this time , they just did something morally wrong ( that 2 i am not sure, based upon what i have read so far, which are more or less speculations)
DOS updated the bulletin , for which they have full legal rights,
and USCIS just follwed it, No Law was broken,atleast i cant see, which law was broken.
If you go for a lawsuit , you would get those damages back, but as i said USCIS being a fees funded organisation, its will come back to you.
Totally agree.. Can you tell which law has been broken by them.
They didnt break a single law.
USCIS broke a law last month by not accepting the EB3 Other workers, even when the bulletin said that the numbers were avaible.
But this time , they just did something morally wrong ( that 2 i am not sure, based upon what i have read so far, which are more or less speculations)
DOS updated the bulletin , for which they have full legal rights,
and USCIS just follwed it, No Law was broken,atleast i cant see, which law was broken.
If you go for a lawsuit , you would get those damages back, but as i said USCIS being a fees funded organisation, its will come back to you.
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06-15 08:22 PM
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Receipt Date: June 11th 2007.
Got the Case Number from check image. Still not received my Receipt Notice.
Mailed From State: VA
Received at TSC on: June 6th 2007
140 approved from : TSC
Receipt Date: June 11th 2007.
Got the Case Number from check image. Still not received my Receipt Notice.
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ganguteli
03-06 04:21 PM
If you are saying that you want a temporary fix then I am sure a lot of people who are in the initial stages or are on just H1 will not support you. Do not say that it will indirectly help them because line in front will be reduced. They want more greencard numbers and no wait times.
You are trying to help folks who are near greencard in last stages only. Such narrow aim should be made wider to get more support.
You are trying to help folks who are near greencard in last stages only. Such narrow aim should be made wider to get more support.
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Jimi_Hendrix
12-13 11:52 AM
I agree whole-heartedly.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?
Alisa, sadly that is the problem. Not enough people want to pick up the spade and work with the NJ or other chapters. I hope that more and more people will realize that creating awareness among politicians is the first step to getting their support when some bill comes up for discussion.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?
Alisa, sadly that is the problem. Not enough people want to pick up the spade and work with the NJ or other chapters. I hope that more and more people will realize that creating awareness among politicians is the first step to getting their support when some bill comes up for discussion.
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sankap
07-10 04:58 PM
@chanduv23:
Folks, here is what I am able to gather by self employment
(1) One can be self employed
(2) 1099 or w2 - kinda tricky - most people I talked to do w2 and any profits they get after they take their salary are bonuses
Self-employment is possible only on 1099. If you're on W2, you're *not* self-employed. Pls see IRS guidelines (links above)
(3) The job has to be legitimate - in the same or similar category - you must be doing duties that are similar in nature to your 140 petition
(4) What is meant by legitimate is - you must simply not be doing "nothing" - there must be income and you must be doing your duties.
That's *your* interpretation of "legitimate." If you're self-employed and looking for contracts, your business is "legitimate." Since there's no clear definition of that from USCIS, DOl, IRS, we can *assume* your self-employment in similar occupation is legitimate. If you've a business, you can't guarantee biweekly/monthly cash flow--again, no guidelines from USCIS on that.
Correct me if I am wrong
Folks, here is what I am able to gather by self employment
(1) One can be self employed
(2) 1099 or w2 - kinda tricky - most people I talked to do w2 and any profits they get after they take their salary are bonuses
Self-employment is possible only on 1099. If you're on W2, you're *not* self-employed. Pls see IRS guidelines (links above)
(3) The job has to be legitimate - in the same or similar category - you must be doing duties that are similar in nature to your 140 petition
(4) What is meant by legitimate is - you must simply not be doing "nothing" - there must be income and you must be doing your duties.
That's *your* interpretation of "legitimate." If you're self-employed and looking for contracts, your business is "legitimate." Since there's no clear definition of that from USCIS, DOl, IRS, we can *assume* your self-employment in similar occupation is legitimate. If you've a business, you can't guarantee biweekly/monthly cash flow--again, no guidelines from USCIS on that.
Correct me if I am wrong
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dixie
12-11 12:11 PM
Lets take another view of this "realistic" angle : Its common sense to go after the low hanging fruit first (I-485, filing EAD etc), but what we conveniently forget is in that case we will not have any support whatsoever from the corporates,AILA,health care industry etc. It will have to be a solo effort from IV for which we would need the support and active contributions from at least half of the one million EB applicants affected by this mess. So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
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csvinay
10-27 05:34 PM
Ok. My bad. I was using lame duck as an example. I'm not hoping anything on the lame duck session.
My question is/was, how long it takes for a bill(passed) to be effective. Is there a timeline within which President has to sign it? Once he signs it how long does it take become effective?
PS: I was guessing, I'm not sure of the 90 days time period.
My question is/was, how long it takes for a bill(passed) to be effective. Is there a timeline within which President has to sign it? Once he signs it how long does it take become effective?
PS: I was guessing, I'm not sure of the 90 days time period.
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diptam
08-18 01:41 PM
Dividing IV on the Lines on EB2 or EB3 or on basis of ROW/India is something i just dont like. United we stand !!!!!! .
I saw couple of threads earlier from you which talks against porting of EB3 to EB2 - i believe you had some lawsuit idea there for not allowing BS+5 to port to EB2 which is think i highly divisive and unfair on certain peoples
Lets come up with ideas without stepping on each others shoe and i'm 100% willing to join.
Here is what I propose:
1. Any one with good english language skill : Can you please volunteer to draft a letter stating the issue....
2. Please contact your lawyers to see if they have contact in AILA.
3. Please contact you state chapter leader to discuss what can be done from IV stand point. I live in tri state and will contact. Murali or Chandrakanth
I saw couple of threads earlier from you which talks against porting of EB3 to EB2 - i believe you had some lawsuit idea there for not allowing BS+5 to port to EB2 which is think i highly divisive and unfair on certain peoples
Lets come up with ideas without stepping on each others shoe and i'm 100% willing to join.
Here is what I propose:
1. Any one with good english language skill : Can you please volunteer to draft a letter stating the issue....
2. Please contact your lawyers to see if they have contact in AILA.
3. Please contact you state chapter leader to discuss what can be done from IV stand point. I live in tri state and will contact. Murali or Chandrakanth
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dicarol18
08-13 03:25 PM
I-140 approved from Texas.
That's great, I guess Texas is moving now..:)
That's great, I guess Texas is moving now..:)
GreenMe
07-10 10:10 AM
eb3_nepa,
This flowers campaign is based on the principles of non voilent protest.
Addition to above ... Gandhigiri is name of this non voilent protest in Mumbai language term.
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Addition to above ... Gandhigiri is name of this non voilent protest in Mumbai language term.
gk_2000
02-17 11:16 AM
thanks ub27, gc_on_demand
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
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What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
.
What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
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