Munna Bhai
12-17 12:25 PM
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
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xyzgc
09-25 10:50 PM
I am enraged.
We Indians deserve to be waiting forever without Greencard.
This is why EB3 Indiots will be waiting forever for their greencard. We Indians come to USA and still behave like the pictures in these links. We throw sh** on the forum and criticize each other. As long as Indians fight with each no bill will ever come. Indiots are to be blamed for waiting forever. Do not blame Amercia. We brought dirt from India and still live in it on this forum. Its pathetic.
So EB3 indians are idiots?:D
We Indians deserve to be waiting forever without Greencard.
This is why EB3 Indiots will be waiting forever for their greencard. We Indians come to USA and still behave like the pictures in these links. We throw sh** on the forum and criticize each other. As long as Indians fight with each no bill will ever come. Indiots are to be blamed for waiting forever. Do not blame Amercia. We brought dirt from India and still live in it on this forum. Its pathetic.
So EB3 indians are idiots?:D
belmontboy
07-20 02:43 PM
Guys, Please don't fight.
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
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Kodi
08-15 11:18 AM
Received email from CRIS: EAD Card production ordered on August 14, 2008 for both myself and husband.
I applied April 18th and did FP July 22, 08.
I applied April 18th and did FP July 22, 08.
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Macaca
07-08 06:13 PM
In Fox News this afternoon, the senator has explicitly said that the Chicago lady does not have any "constituional rights" since she is not American citizen. Go figure what they think about us.
The case should not have been accepted if the lady does not have constitutional rights. Lets see if they reject the case on this basis after listening to Tancredo.
The case should not have been accepted if the lady does not have constitutional rights. Lets see if they reject the case on this basis after listening to Tancredo.
abq_gc
08-18 03:00 PM
you manage people with a stick ?? :)
All we are asking is to support some kind of action against the USCIS...
we just need to mobilize ourselves... this is not a fight for EB-2 or EB-3... but for the whole legal immigration system... let's just do something
we are looking at specific situations where the legal immigrant community was affected... and right now its the non sequential processing of the applications for EB-2...
for EB-3 we will need to make similar points which we can raise with Ombudsman or some other authority... we just need to find instances where people were affected... for example delays in EAD.. and that is for EB-2 and EB-3
All we are asking is to support some kind of action against the USCIS...
we just need to mobilize ourselves... this is not a fight for EB-2 or EB-3... but for the whole legal immigration system... let's just do something
we are looking at specific situations where the legal immigrant community was affected... and right now its the non sequential processing of the applications for EB-2...
for EB-3 we will need to make similar points which we can raise with Ombudsman or some other authority... we just need to find instances where people were affected... for example delays in EAD.. and that is for EB-2 and EB-3
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ramus
07-03 12:56 PM
With your flowers, I think USCIS will be happy thinking that they did very good job in approving 60,000 visa in June.
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minimalist
07-26 12:18 AM
If I am not wrong, it is more to do with a rule interpretation change by USCIS.
Insuppose the most feasible solution for the ones that are really bothered and have a chance is to do a EB2 porting. EB3 is like the slow lane. EB2 also used to be like that but benefited from the change in spillover.
EB3 best chance is to have the Visa Recapture which is already being pursued or have some other legislative fix.
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Insuppose the most feasible solution for the ones that are really bothered and have a chance is to do a EB2 porting. EB3 is like the slow lane. EB2 also used to be like that but benefited from the change in spillover.
EB3 best chance is to have the Visa Recapture which is already being pursued or have some other legislative fix.
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Not a lawyer.
EB3 May 2006
Contributed $100
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kg318
04-20 09:23 PM
thanks a lot guyz for all ur replies. My only concern is can they claim the GC expenses(lawyer fee and advertisement costs involved in PERM filing) as the expenses they incurred because of me leaving the company if they file a law suit using non compete. There is no other expense relocation, training or another kind of expense that company has incurred for me(not a single penny except h1b filing). and one more thing i want to let u know is that i am workign with the same client just changed my h1b to PF. Will that be a trouble??? As i have already mentioned earlier in the agreement of company A with PF when i joined the company clearly specifies that PF can take me immediately upon my termination with company A.
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rtarar
05-19 05:46 PM
I am a 2 July 2007 filer. Many SR's and calls later no FP.But I applied for EAD and AP renewal last week.I got the FP notice in mail today.
So I think that the renewal may trigger a FP notice.
-R
So I think that the renewal may trigger a FP notice.
-R
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ita
11-01 04:17 PM
Per my lawyer,
1. USCIS does not mandate that you must inform when you invoke AC21. You can inform them if and when you get RFE.
2. I strongly believe that we should not accept job offers that is not related to the job you originally applied for. My lawyer says it is usually vague and if USCIS determines other wise I will be in trouble. And for the same reason I am hesitant to accept very good employee offer from my current client.
3. Self employment is ok as long as the requirements are met and that is what is I am doing now.
You are not informing USCIS about it .
So just just accept employment from another employer ..just change the job or is there any paperwork involded like transfer of any documents or GC processing ?
what do you mean by invoking ?
Thank you.
1. USCIS does not mandate that you must inform when you invoke AC21. You can inform them if and when you get RFE.
2. I strongly believe that we should not accept job offers that is not related to the job you originally applied for. My lawyer says it is usually vague and if USCIS determines other wise I will be in trouble. And for the same reason I am hesitant to accept very good employee offer from my current client.
3. Self employment is ok as long as the requirements are met and that is what is I am doing now.
You are not informing USCIS about it .
So just just accept employment from another employer ..just change the job or is there any paperwork involded like transfer of any documents or GC processing ?
what do you mean by invoking ?
Thank you.
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Madhuri
05-01 12:32 PM
I second you.
If 485 can be filed for both primasy and dependent when EB is current or FB is current
this will really work pretty well. dependents can be on EAD/AP status in this case.
iff = if and only if
The I485s for both primary and dependent could be filed either if the family or the employment category is current.
i.e. assume my PD is X. If X is current in FB category but not in EB category - both the primary and the dependent should still be able to file I485. Same happens if X is current in EB and not in FB.
In this scenario - if the family based category is retrogressed:
Option 1: Spouce can wait the retrogression out in AP/EAD.
Option 2: Primary can become a citizen in 5 years and then "upgrade" the I485 to a new FB category with no retrogression.
Without this joint filing if either category is current - it can cause nightmares for the dependent if the primary gets a GC and the dependent loses H4/L2.
If 485 can be filed for both primasy and dependent when EB is current or FB is current
this will really work pretty well. dependents can be on EAD/AP status in this case.
iff = if and only if
The I485s for both primary and dependent could be filed either if the family or the employment category is current.
i.e. assume my PD is X. If X is current in FB category but not in EB category - both the primary and the dependent should still be able to file I485. Same happens if X is current in EB and not in FB.
In this scenario - if the family based category is retrogressed:
Option 1: Spouce can wait the retrogression out in AP/EAD.
Option 2: Primary can become a citizen in 5 years and then "upgrade" the I485 to a new FB category with no retrogression.
Without this joint filing if either category is current - it can cause nightmares for the dependent if the primary gets a GC and the dependent loses H4/L2.
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ameryki
09-24 08:43 PM
Received FP notice today. The online tracker says following:
Current Status: Case received and pending.
On September 11, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS, and mailed you a notice describing how we will process your case.
My lawyer confirmed that the application was posted on august 2nd 07.
Can anyone help me figure out when is my receipt date? And from which date can I start counting 6 months to file ac21 ?
I am in the same boat as you. Got FP notices for me and the wife today in the mail and online tracker states received on Sept 10th. My lawyer sent it on Aug 1st to NSC and file # starts with LIN so we are ok there. any thoughts? how important is the receipt notice if we have the receipt number information handy?
Current Status: Case received and pending.
On September 11, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS, and mailed you a notice describing how we will process your case.
My lawyer confirmed that the application was posted on august 2nd 07.
Can anyone help me figure out when is my receipt date? And from which date can I start counting 6 months to file ac21 ?
I am in the same boat as you. Got FP notices for me and the wife today in the mail and online tracker states received on Sept 10th. My lawyer sent it on Aug 1st to NSC and file # starts with LIN so we are ok there. any thoughts? how important is the receipt notice if we have the receipt number information handy?
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asdqwe2k
06-27 03:06 PM
I am really surprised that you guys are contemplating on going against your employer for a employment letter and filing your GC. I mean, how hard is it for you guys to agree to the terms of your employer that you will work till you get your GC and upto 6 months beyond that..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
If you guys came before 2001-2002 and seen how the situation was for green card filers you will now what I am talking about..
1. There was no concurrent filing of I-140/485
2. There was no premium processing for Labor
3. There was no premium processing for I-140
4. There was no AC-21, so there is no way of switching jobs..
Still it used to take 4-5 years to get a GC.
And you guys are complaining about your employer because you worked for 1-2 years and you want to quit as soon as you get EAD..
Just imagine what would have happened if the dates were not CURRENT.. How many more years you would have worked, cursing USCIS
Your greed will ruin you in future, just like you are cursing your employer's greed..
Also, before you curse your employer, it was you who joined the company and you had many months to find out what kind of employer you have and it quit the company long time back.. You could have switched to different company long time back..
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GC08
09-12 07:13 PM
Isn't that they have completed input and receipt issuance for cases received by certain date (late Aug.?) according to their update? How come so many July filers still have not received receipts? Weird!
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glus
06-04 11:11 AM
e-mailed my 2 NY senators with a personal letter explaining the problem in the new immigration bill. Requested changes to be made.
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gcsomeday
06-26 06:13 PM
record conversatios with these jack ass employers. It is surprising how much crap and illegal things they tell and do during negotiations. Not sure about the legality, would not harm if you dont use it. We keep seeing news on people getting screwed and then when outed the victim is not usually screwed by the system again.
Also, I wonder if any employment contract not tied to any reasonable time estimate( like 485 - who knows when we will get it) will hold.Its akin to slavery.
Also, I wonder if any employment contract not tied to any reasonable time estimate( like 485 - who knows when we will get it) will hold.Its akin to slavery.
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roseball
09-10 10:09 AM
I don't know what this means. This is what it say in the Mumbai website.
Category India Most Other Countries
F1 22 July 2003 22 July 2003
FX 1 March 2003 1 March 2003
F2A 1 June 2005 1 June 2005
F2B 22 August 2001 22 August 2001
F3 15 Janurary 2001 15 Janurary 2001
F4 15 April 1999 15 April 1999
E1 Current Current
E2 22 January 2005 Current
E3 22 February 2002 1 June 2002
EW 1 June 2001 1 June 2001
E4 Current Current
E4-Religious Current Current
Either the US Consulate got the EB-3 India date wrong or there was a typo in the Oct Visa Bulletin. I wish/hope there was a typo in the bulletin and Mumbai consulate got it right....Cut Off Dates- Consulate General of the United States Mumbai, India (http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html)..But it seems they might have copied the date from China column of the visa bulletin...
Category India Most Other Countries
F1 22 July 2003 22 July 2003
FX 1 March 2003 1 March 2003
F2A 1 June 2005 1 June 2005
F2B 22 August 2001 22 August 2001
F3 15 Janurary 2001 15 Janurary 2001
F4 15 April 1999 15 April 1999
E1 Current Current
E2 22 January 2005 Current
E3 22 February 2002 1 June 2002
EW 1 June 2001 1 June 2001
E4 Current Current
E4-Religious Current Current
Either the US Consulate got the EB-3 India date wrong or there was a typo in the Oct Visa Bulletin. I wish/hope there was a typo in the bulletin and Mumbai consulate got it right....Cut Off Dates- Consulate General of the United States Mumbai, India (http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html)..But it seems they might have copied the date from China column of the visa bulletin...
simple1
05-04 08:19 PM
thanks vbkris,
I was about to post similar reply.
Naveen,
We need INA language. nothing more nothing less.
All,
As of this post. I could not find the law linking ebdependents with ebquota.
I was about to post similar reply.
Naveen,
We need INA language. nothing more nothing less.
All,
As of this post. I could not find the law linking ebdependents with ebquota.
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