amsgc
03-09 11:53 PM
Sayantan,
It ironic that you, of all people who got a GC through EB1, are questioning the importance of intellect over physical labor. It is no secret that human civilization has progressed and prospered only because some people have thought hard and attempted to invent new things. And the current EB preference system clearly reflects that importance of intellectual advancement to any society.
The cabbie or the waiter, with due respect their profession, is a mere cog in the wheel; a facilitator. But you my friend, the high skilled immigrant, have the ability to innovate and help your society progress. You have the education and understanding that can be passed on to future generations.
It is not to say that the waiter cannot invent, but the fact of the matter is five years on and he is still waiting tables.
I wonder if you were waiting in limbo for five-six-seven years, would you have still made this callous remark?
what makes you think you are more important to american society than the waiter or the cabbies? we all come to US under full disclosure but a hope that by the time our turn at GC (and Citizenship for those who care) comes - the queues would have shortened or the rules would have changed in our favor and we wont have to wait for so long......
It ironic that you, of all people who got a GC through EB1, are questioning the importance of intellect over physical labor. It is no secret that human civilization has progressed and prospered only because some people have thought hard and attempted to invent new things. And the current EB preference system clearly reflects that importance of intellectual advancement to any society.
The cabbie or the waiter, with due respect their profession, is a mere cog in the wheel; a facilitator. But you my friend, the high skilled immigrant, have the ability to innovate and help your society progress. You have the education and understanding that can be passed on to future generations.
It is not to say that the waiter cannot invent, but the fact of the matter is five years on and he is still waiting tables.
I wonder if you were waiting in limbo for five-six-seven years, would you have still made this callous remark?
what makes you think you are more important to american society than the waiter or the cabbies? we all come to US under full disclosure but a hope that by the time our turn at GC (and Citizenship for those who care) comes - the queues would have shortened or the rules would have changed in our favor and we wont have to wait for so long......
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sumant18
08-27 04:48 PM
Any updates on your end? I am in the same situation. My wife received hers over a week ago but I am still waiting. Approval notice received more than 2 weeks ago.
I got approval email 3 weeks back. Does anyone know how long it takes to get the physical Card? I have not seen any updates after this. Thanks in advance
Post Decision Activity
On August 3, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS.
I got approval email 3 weeks back. Does anyone know how long it takes to get the physical Card? I have not seen any updates after this. Thanks in advance
Post Decision Activity
On August 3, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS.
qasleuth
02-12 02:28 PM
You have still not answered my question - where did you get the idea that I am here self imposing high standards? You have talked about everything else but that. So you have decided to take refuge by not answering the main reason why I said you are making accusations.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
LOL ! You made your point on page 2 and you should have let it go (about the morality of the issue)...when you keep hitting the point home giving the impression that you are squeaky clean is where my post came in. You misrepresented when you applied for a student visa and then got a job. period. Then you attack the other guy on his comm skills by saying things like "thinking in your native tongue and translating" BS when your own comm skills are in doubt. I have not condoned any of the actions in this thread, just taking exception to your language and presumptions.
As kumar pointed out, no need to be ultra harsh. Now let it go...bye.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
LOL ! You made your point on page 2 and you should have let it go (about the morality of the issue)...when you keep hitting the point home giving the impression that you are squeaky clean is where my post came in. You misrepresented when you applied for a student visa and then got a job. period. Then you attack the other guy on his comm skills by saying things like "thinking in your native tongue and translating" BS when your own comm skills are in doubt. I have not condoned any of the actions in this thread, just taking exception to your language and presumptions.
As kumar pointed out, no need to be ultra harsh. Now let it go...bye.
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gjoe
10-08 03:46 PM
A rich man had a bunch of horses and donkeys. He used some to carry the load and some he tried to breed for participating in races. He was trying something but not very effeciently.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
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dontcareanymore
08-25 12:04 PM
I wish they go after the fake companies that acts as GC boutique and also those who "bought" GC from them. (I mean not really bought, but who got GC from a company who originally never intended to work for them or never did). And of course use those numbers for LEGITIMATE cases (I hate to see those numbers go waste).
lots and lots and lots of h-1b's getting denied. extensions, change of employer, 140's approved, etc. doesn't matter.
just about all h-1b's getting rfe's and many, many are stuck in "background check". This is just a cop out by uscis where they are investigating companies use of h-1b's (this is reason for slowdown in processing times ) by vermont service center.
uscis caught many companies in fraud - also consulates - many companies giving internal projects, etc. or fake purchase orders and getting caught by department of state which then forwards to U.S.
ICE is making visits to consultants homes to verify where they are actually working and comparing to h-1b's.
Next; investigations will start with greencards.
I warned last year; that all the noise everyone was making about h-1b's and greencards was going to eventually get hit back by government agencies. Now; we are seeing this.
lots and lots and lots of h-1b's getting denied. extensions, change of employer, 140's approved, etc. doesn't matter.
just about all h-1b's getting rfe's and many, many are stuck in "background check". This is just a cop out by uscis where they are investigating companies use of h-1b's (this is reason for slowdown in processing times ) by vermont service center.
uscis caught many companies in fraud - also consulates - many companies giving internal projects, etc. or fake purchase orders and getting caught by department of state which then forwards to U.S.
ICE is making visits to consultants homes to verify where they are actually working and comparing to h-1b's.
Next; investigations will start with greencards.
I warned last year; that all the noise everyone was making about h-1b's and greencards was going to eventually get hit back by government agencies. Now; we are seeing this.
mirage
03-07 01:34 PM
Your Comment on H2B is only right about H2B and doesn't apply on EB green cards. We are people who came on H1B & our Green Cards were sponsored by US employers, we have our Labor & I-140 approved and we are waiting for Visa number assigned to our applications. So you could be comparing apples to peaches...Immigration policies had been hostile in past 12 years and will continue to be same indefinitely...Now our choice is sit back, lie low, keep watching & read Visa predictions indefinitely- may be another decade or 2- or take some steps, which I think, are not going to face much opposition. Also regarding reason behind so many Indians is, that 200K H1B between 1999 and 2002. Even if visa cap is lifted for 2 years that big hump will be crossed, it may smoothen the Visa allocations for Indians.
One thing that everyne needs to understand is that before the lawmakers, etc., take a stand they study the issue.
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One thing that everyne needs to understand is that before the lawmakers, etc., take a stand they study the issue.
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riyaz.pirani
09-22 03:41 PM
What center did you file NSC or TSC
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Roger Binny
05-10 01:21 AM
GC Visa's are per country per year, where as H1's are not per country based, we indians used most H1's and stood in queue for GC's of course there is path so we stood, in fact it is one attraction they used to bring over here, to start with, per country GC visa limit is a poor thought.
GC quota should be better tied to H1 quota or raise the limit and god knows when did they put the numbers per country GC, before H1b program or after H1b program.
H1b program allowed hundred's of thousands to come in, in fact which they encouraged i can dare to say and GC visa count is not according to that and they let all these families to stay in limbo or wait forever is not a good sign.
Irony is majority of these folks are purposed to solve or improve all kinds of problems ranging from improving enterprise's response time from months to minutes or minutes to secs and other kinds improvements, who's families and them selves stuck in a decade long "legal immigration" battle of their life.
GC quota should be better tied to H1 quota or raise the limit and god knows when did they put the numbers per country GC, before H1b program or after H1b program.
H1b program allowed hundred's of thousands to come in, in fact which they encouraged i can dare to say and GC visa count is not according to that and they let all these families to stay in limbo or wait forever is not a good sign.
Irony is majority of these folks are purposed to solve or improve all kinds of problems ranging from improving enterprise's response time from months to minutes or minutes to secs and other kinds improvements, who's families and them selves stuck in a decade long "legal immigration" battle of their life.
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gcformeornot
03-26 09:28 PM
for me. Family already done.
Are any of you guys still waiting like me?
Are any of you guys still waiting like me?
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kannan
01-08 08:42 PM
Mine is NSC to CA, Still in CA only,opened 2 SR for FP,no use.Anybody is still in CA
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sheraaj
07-10 10:38 AM
Hello Guys,
Looks like this did got some visibility. It does not matter you have won the game or not but getting the message and getting the visibility is important.
Check wikipedia article (Down below). -- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhigiri
"Wikipedia is a free online library with many articles and it is very popular website and gaining popularity every day."
BTW.. People might argue why are we doing this and Gandhiji did not do this. Gabdhiji clearly stated that Satyagraha can be achieved in any way as long as it is peacefull. We are doing Flower-Satyagraha.
Thanks to you all. If you did not send then keep on sending. IV has done a very good job by initiating this.
Regards..
Looks like this did got some visibility. It does not matter you have won the game or not but getting the message and getting the visibility is important.
Check wikipedia article (Down below). -- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhigiri
"Wikipedia is a free online library with many articles and it is very popular website and gaining popularity every day."
BTW.. People might argue why are we doing this and Gandhiji did not do this. Gabdhiji clearly stated that Satyagraha can be achieved in any way as long as it is peacefull. We are doing Flower-Satyagraha.
Thanks to you all. If you did not send then keep on sending. IV has done a very good job by initiating this.
Regards..
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pappu
02-09 05:56 PM
People are giving red dots for asking donation....
Great we will fix all these problem by 2100.
GO IV GO...there are lots of free riders waiting for you.
I really feel ashamed you guys.
I will check who they are cos that means they are anti-IV and anti-immigrants
Great we will fix all these problem by 2100.
GO IV GO...there are lots of free riders waiting for you.
I really feel ashamed you guys.
I will check who they are cos that means they are anti-IV and anti-immigrants
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Macaca
07-08 09:14 PM
140K GCs are available on Oct 1. But, dates are not current. Based on this, there appears to be a law that prevents USCIS from recieving ALL AOSs. I am guessing that this law specifies a cap on AOSs that USCIS can recieve from lawyers. (This is why I am keen on knowing conditions for setting dates in VB)
The following argues that it is hard for this cap to reach exactly on the end of every month.
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
It is impossible to believe that this cap was not violated in June when it is possible that USCIS got 200K-600K AOSs.
The following argues that it is hard for this cap to reach exactly on the end of every month.
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
It is impossible to believe that this cap was not violated in June when it is possible that USCIS got 200K-600K AOSs.
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SleeplessinSeatle
08-19 10:30 PM
Thanks.. All of our checks were sent by lawyer and they were not telling me any thing. When I asked them repeatedly, they just said checks have not been cashed and our dear USCIS refused to give any update, as it has not been 90 days. I am still waiting for FP notice or receipt for my I485/I131 and receipt for I485/I131/I765 of my wife.
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jsb
11-08 01:22 PM
Good suggestion for bringing this to Ombudsman. BUt anyway informing USCIS would be the wise step in a sense you will not invite unforseen problems may be associated with not informing.
Reason for not informing could be the vagueness and subjective element of what is same/similar job. If you are close to getting your GC, and you don't expect any RFE, you might want to avoid that potential issue. Of course, if there is long time interval between I-485 filing and the USCIS decision making time, USCIS might like to reconfirm if original job offer is still there. In that case it is better to inform USCIS about the job change, before they issue an RFE.
Anyway, it is better to get a clarification from Ombudsman
Reason for not informing could be the vagueness and subjective element of what is same/similar job. If you are close to getting your GC, and you don't expect any RFE, you might want to avoid that potential issue. Of course, if there is long time interval between I-485 filing and the USCIS decision making time, USCIS might like to reconfirm if original job offer is still there. In that case it is better to inform USCIS about the job change, before they issue an RFE.
Anyway, it is better to get a clarification from Ombudsman
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h1techSlave
07-20 12:43 PM
If I simplify the whole attitude of IV members; it would be "EB3 is hopeless; EB2 doesn't need any help".
The way the whole EB GC stands now, EB2 folks do not need any additional help. The dates are moving relatively fast. In a year or two most of the EB2 folks will get GC. So why spend money and time in IV efforts?
As far as EB3 folks are considered, we have no hope. CIR is dead; piecemeal efforts are opposed by CHC. IV has never shown much interest in piecemeal efforts, despite the fact that what ever little efforts have resulted in enormous positive results.
The way the whole EB GC stands now, EB2 folks do not need any additional help. The dates are moving relatively fast. In a year or two most of the EB2 folks will get GC. So why spend money and time in IV efforts?
As far as EB3 folks are considered, we have no hope. CIR is dead; piecemeal efforts are opposed by CHC. IV has never shown much interest in piecemeal efforts, despite the fact that what ever little efforts have resulted in enormous positive results.
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reddymjm
06-13 04:09 PM
My one set of checks cleared last friday & other set yet to be cleared. That might be for me or wife, no idea. So I'm waiting.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
You should see the paper copy of receipts in your mail box today as I already got mine monday.Still waiting on my wifes. Was your at NSC too.. I wrote my name on the checks to differentiate. So I knew they were mine.
My attorney is not organized man. he is #$$%%%^. so worried whether he sent it or not. Is your wife working too by any chance.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
You should see the paper copy of receipts in your mail box today as I already got mine monday.Still waiting on my wifes. Was your at NSC too.. I wrote my name on the checks to differentiate. So I knew they were mine.
My attorney is not organized man. he is #$$%%%^. so worried whether he sent it or not. Is your wife working too by any chance.
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at0474
03-26 11:39 AM
2007 June visa bulletin moved EB3 India to June 2003. The very next month, they made everything current. Things went out of control after that. For some reason, in my dreamland, I am fantacizing the first move to repeat again. May not make everything current, but atleast, move EB3 to june 2003.
FinalGC
08-20 03:45 PM
Guys:
For all those who are waiting...I would suggest one more thing, if your file is not touched. My lawyer had sent an email to NSC on Aug 2. I believe that along with my SR might have done the trick.....Sheela Murthy was my lawyer....that too might have helped....Who know what works....but we can all try.....Hope all who are stuck, get their GC by end of this month.
Take Care
For all those who are waiting...I would suggest one more thing, if your file is not touched. My lawyer had sent an email to NSC on Aug 2. I believe that along with my SR might have done the trick.....Sheela Murthy was my lawyer....that too might have helped....Who know what works....but we can all try.....Hope all who are stuck, get their GC by end of this month.
Take Care
Edison99
09-23 12:45 PM
Thanks eastindia for the posting Visa Bulletin Predictions and Updates!
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