qasleuth
02-12 01:27 PM
In that case I have to ask you this - what makes you think I am "imposing" (whatever THAT means) high standards on myself? Were you trying to shoot down my arguments by false accusations? I am maintaining the same "standard" as the next guy.
If you read my previous post with attention, you'll see that I have said I did not convey my intentions clearly. So again, if you're simply trying to shoot down what ever I am saying, well, I really can't stop you. You can keep going back to the same topic over and over again, but it will not prove your accusations!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
If you read my previous post with attention, you'll see that I have said I did not convey my intentions clearly. So again, if you're simply trying to shoot down what ever I am saying, well, I really can't stop you. You can keep going back to the same topic over and over again, but it will not prove your accusations!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
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rkg000
07-20 02:45 PM
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
I think I am now quite clear about the cause of all our backlogs :D. You said it dude, people who see their issues resolved are less likely to contribute. I guess by the same argument it is safe to assume if EB3 were getting approved faster, they would be contributing even less, as are EB2 right now, right?
Whoever said EB3 is lagging behind because they are not contributing is a fool. We all are lagging behind because we all are not contributing enough. None of the IV efforts resulted in only faster EB2 movement. So it is foolish to think that IV contributions are going towards only clearing EB2 cases. IV efforts resulted in greater transparency for all of us. If we don't unite and keep bickering this way, you know where we all end up.
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
I think I am now quite clear about the cause of all our backlogs :D. You said it dude, people who see their issues resolved are less likely to contribute. I guess by the same argument it is safe to assume if EB3 were getting approved faster, they would be contributing even less, as are EB2 right now, right?
Whoever said EB3 is lagging behind because they are not contributing is a fool. We all are lagging behind because we all are not contributing enough. None of the IV efforts resulted in only faster EB2 movement. So it is foolish to think that IV contributions are going towards only clearing EB2 cases. IV efforts resulted in greater transparency for all of us. If we don't unite and keep bickering this way, you know where we all end up.
sanjay
02-10 02:42 PM
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed. (Cheque has been posted)
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
--------
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
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nogc12
08-02 10:27 AM
I called customer service yeasterday and the response is that they were processing June22 cases and they would get to July 2 in 2-3 weeks.
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Desertfox
05-23 04:34 PM
Sent email to 2+10 senators.
sankap
07-09 10:20 PM
In that case, I *guess* you can show yourself as "permanently self-employed" for your own company--should be easy if you have an LLC that does business in "same or similar" occupation (e.g., consulting/PM). Should also be easy to state the *projected" yearly income on EVL.
First read this post.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/473142-post12.html
This should clear your doubt. You can read RFE issued by USCIS on other forum as well. The word "permanent" is right there.
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First read this post.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/473142-post12.html
This should clear your doubt. You can read RFE issued by USCIS on other forum as well. The word "permanent" is right there.
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go2roomshare
04-20 01:52 PM
No reply so far ! No one here??
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akhilmahajan
02-26 02:00 PM
Thanks a lot everyone.
Grand Total - $1990
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Grand Total - $1990
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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pret_23
01-30 05:04 PM
And none of us should even complain when millions of illegals are suddenly made legal by the Government and they jump the line in front of us for no fault of ours and there are EB3s still waiting from 2001. The illegals have taken a risk right by jumping across the border and staying here illegally???
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Yes its tough but trust me if we dont have illegals in america nobody would have even bothered abt CIR.And, in the current market situation they would have reduced H1B quota also....
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Yes its tough but trust me if we dont have illegals in america nobody would have even bothered abt CIR.And, in the current market situation they would have reduced H1B quota also....
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mhtanim
05-20 02:23 PM
Hi,
I filed mine on 27th July, 2007;
Do I need to apply for renewal now? How sooner or later we can apply for renewal?
You can file for renewal beginning 120 days before your EAD/AP expires.
I filed mine on 27th July, 2007;
Do I need to apply for renewal now? How sooner or later we can apply for renewal?
You can file for renewal beginning 120 days before your EAD/AP expires.
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good idea
09-23 04:34 PM
If someone ports from eb3 to eb2 they should get the priority date of the day they were eligible to file an eb2 and not be able to carry the date from eb3.
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
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skark
09-18 09:25 AM
EAD was about to expire before 90 days, so I took an infopass apt. The person that heard my case (soolemaga) was a d**k. Rude and impossible to communicate with. Anyway, he sent an email to someone at TSC after much cajoling and I get a call the same day from some nice lady from TSC. She says that my application for EAD is approved and I should get my card in 2 weeks. 2 days after I get the call from TSC, I get an email that card production is ordered!
I had initially called USCIS support with an expediate request citing Severe financial loss and I got a letter back that they are very strict processing expediate requests as they get a lot of such requests. So they had asked me to wait.
Hope this information helps someone!
I had initially called USCIS support with an expediate request citing Severe financial loss and I got a letter back that they are very strict processing expediate requests as they get a lot of such requests. So they had asked me to wait.
Hope this information helps someone!
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gc28262
03-07 11:02 AM
Good point, has anybody asked this to any lawyer ? Can we challenge this in court ? This is the definition of judiciary review...If we can proove the country cap to be unconstitutional..
Judicial Review is when the Supreme Court reviews an act of Congress to see if it is Constitutional.
Judicial Review is the power of the Supreme Court to declare a law unconstitutuion (violation against the laws of the Constitutuion).
Do we have any reference to say it is unconstitutional ? If EB country cap is unconstitutional, FB cap would be unconstitutional too.
IMO this entire country cap rule has racist intent. If the caps were to promote diversity, the cap should be based on ethnicity of US population (ctizens and GC holders). Are Indians and Chinese a a mjority in this country ? No.
How does putting a cap on total visa allocation per year promote diversity ?
Judicial Review is when the Supreme Court reviews an act of Congress to see if it is Constitutional.
Judicial Review is the power of the Supreme Court to declare a law unconstitutuion (violation against the laws of the Constitutuion).
Do we have any reference to say it is unconstitutional ? If EB country cap is unconstitutional, FB cap would be unconstitutional too.
IMO this entire country cap rule has racist intent. If the caps were to promote diversity, the cap should be based on ethnicity of US population (ctizens and GC holders). Are Indians and Chinese a a mjority in this country ? No.
How does putting a cap on total visa allocation per year promote diversity ?
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Ushakiran
05-08 05:59 PM
should we add the following content?
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
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amslonewolf
11-17 03:12 PM
done. that was easy.
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english_august
07-09 01:01 PM
I ve sent the pdf to my local newspapers. She is interested in doing the story.
Pls call & talk to her : kcollins@newsobserver.com
Feel free to call/talk to her.
Pls call & talk to her : kcollins@newsobserver.com
Feel free to call/talk to her.
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amitjoey
05-23 04:10 PM
I see a Webfax being setup. Only 49 members have used it. Very simple to use, click on webfax, enter your state and details, send. 10 sec. Please use this. This is the most simple thing you can do.
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chmur
07-27 06:09 PM
otherwise society would have have no use for lawyers....who make a living making interpretation of the existing laws.
Anyway, the current discussion is not even about the law but about the different interpretations of the same law . The Visa Bulletin extract also provided yet another interpretation by the same authority.
The Law/Directions from the congress regarding spill over distribution has not changed in over 5 years but it's interpretation and implementation by DOS has changed drastically in the same period.
They have gone "Vertical" to "Horizontal" and probably will somersault next .
2006 -2007 saw EB3 getting lion share of the spill over EB2. It is being reversed now, all without change in any laws/directions from congress.
This year's interpretation cannot be assumed as absolute just because it is favorable to a particular segment of applicants and it is incorrect to opine that any change in such interpretation requires change in law.
All this indicates that congress has given enough leeway to DOS to interpret it's directions , as DOS sees fit to run it's business.
and I think herein lies an oppurtunity for EB3 applicants to state their case and explain if DOS continues with it's current interpretation.
EB3 lobby has to impress upon the DOS that it is in DOS's intrest to not to starve any particular queue lest it will damage it's own throughput.
If convinced , DOS might look at alternative algorithm to mitigate starving within the current directions, atleast we can hope for that.
Now what that mitigation strategy will be within the current laws is known only to DOS. Which algorithm requires law changes... which do not none of us know yet ...everything alternative suggested is speculation based on contradicting interpretations provided by DOS over the years.
Anyway, the current discussion is not even about the law but about the different interpretations of the same law . The Visa Bulletin extract also provided yet another interpretation by the same authority.
The Law/Directions from the congress regarding spill over distribution has not changed in over 5 years but it's interpretation and implementation by DOS has changed drastically in the same period.
They have gone "Vertical" to "Horizontal" and probably will somersault next .
2006 -2007 saw EB3 getting lion share of the spill over EB2. It is being reversed now, all without change in any laws/directions from congress.
This year's interpretation cannot be assumed as absolute just because it is favorable to a particular segment of applicants and it is incorrect to opine that any change in such interpretation requires change in law.
All this indicates that congress has given enough leeway to DOS to interpret it's directions , as DOS sees fit to run it's business.
and I think herein lies an oppurtunity for EB3 applicants to state their case and explain if DOS continues with it's current interpretation.
EB3 lobby has to impress upon the DOS that it is in DOS's intrest to not to starve any particular queue lest it will damage it's own throughput.
If convinced , DOS might look at alternative algorithm to mitigate starving within the current directions, atleast we can hope for that.
Now what that mitigation strategy will be within the current laws is known only to DOS. Which algorithm requires law changes... which do not none of us know yet ...everything alternative suggested is speculation based on contradicting interpretations provided by DOS over the years.
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 04:32 PM
I never believed the polls either. Go ahead and research how many pro CIR candidates have experienced decrease in popularity so far, how many cities have initiated ordinances against illegal immigration, how many $ was invested in lobbying senators without much success, how many anti CIR/amnesty calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls. If you do that, you may be shocked.
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
desi3933
07-09 03:40 PM
.....
A lot of people do go for self employment so no need to be scared as long as the employment is legitimate.
Thanks Chandu.
This one line summaries well what is needed for Self-Employment.
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A lot of people do go for self employment so no need to be scared as long as the employment is legitimate.
Thanks Chandu.
This one line summaries well what is needed for Self-Employment.
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greenkard
03-15 02:29 PM
already did that. Is calling the only thing at the moment? Why don't you let EB3 guys talk a little?
My friend suggested this forum. Looks to be very good site and seems to be active. I am EB# from India.
Can you tell me why EB3 is lagging so much
My friend suggested this forum. Looks to be very good site and seems to be active. I am EB# from India.
Can you tell me why EB3 is lagging so much
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